"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
11/25/2016 at 14:57 • Filed to: None
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"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
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Sam
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/25/2016 at 15:06 |
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Hey man, there’s totally a non-zero chance that 21 devoted Republican party members will cause national outcry and choose Hilldog!
There’s also a non-zero chance of the entire Electoral College being hit by a cataclysmic-sized meteor and the House chooses the President instead!
LongbowMkII
> Sam
11/25/2016 at 15:07 |
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I hope Giant Meteor wins the recount.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> Sam
11/25/2016 at 15:09 |
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She won the popular vote by 3% and counting. 2,000,000+ votes. I realize that in this case that does not matter, but it bears mention.
For Liberals, this is more than losing an election; this is the implosion of an ideology.
bhtooefr
> LongbowMkII
11/25/2016 at 15:19 |
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Yeah, I don’t like either of the actually likely outcomes of the recount. (I still want it to happen, and tossed some cash at Jill Stein for it, if nothing else, because we need to be sure that there isn’t tampering. If there is tampering, it doesn’t matter who or what you support, that shit needs to be stopped, it hurts everyone .)
On one hand, if the results are upheld, we really do get four years of Trump and Pence’s America, which is downright horrifying, and I’m in a group that won’t be targeted (white, male, cisgender, and heterosexual). Many aren’t so lucky.
On the other hand, if the results aren’t upheld in all three states being recounted, we get Clinton. We also get an end to the Democratic Party’s panicked offering of an olive branch to progressives, as it will have turned out that neoliberalism really can win in 2016. We get a continuation of Third Way policies that fuck the people while claiming to help them, and the people really are sick of that. And, in 2020, we set the stage for a Trump-like figure to win, even more than in 2016, because people will be even more sick of how Democrats have enacted policies that don’t help them.
ttyymmnn
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/25/2016 at 15:20 |
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TheHondaBro
> LongbowMkII
11/25/2016 at 15:22 |
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I’m still a little peeved not enough people wrote in Bernie Sanders. HE COULDA WON!!!!!1!1!!!!1!!1!1!1!1ONE!!!!ELEVEN!!!1!
jkm7680
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/25/2016 at 15:53 |
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I live in a pretty liberal area at the moment. About 50% of people with Hillary signs/stickers and various other merch haven’t removed them yet.
There’s still one on a highway onramp in the grass, I’d like to know what kind of Hillary supporter is committed enough to cross a lane of fast moving traffic to plant a Hillary sign.
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Sam
> TheHondaBro
11/25/2016 at 15:55 |
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The DNC “rigged” this election, too!
(But seriously, the Bernout Sanders wasn’t registered for the ballot anywhere, so a write-in is literally the same as leaving it blank)
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Sam
> ttyymmnn
11/25/2016 at 16:01 |
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I really don’t think fake news cause HDRC to lose. People just need someone to blame, since she totally wasn’t a terrible candidate with a ton of real, bad news the whole election.
I will admit that Comey was a major player in her loss, though. Reopening a dead investigation right before the election is a shithead thing to do, and obvious meddling. If Trump wants to gain a lot of favor with Clinton voters, he should fire Comey on day 1. It’d make for great headlines, too.
‘Trump to Director Comey: “You’re Fired!”’
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bhtooefr
> Sam
11/25/2016 at 16:22 |
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Depends on the state, actually - a few (including Vermont) recognize write-ins regardless of whether they’re registered. (Not that writing someone who literally said to vote for Hillary in is a good idea (although I much rather would’ve had him as president), but you can do it.)
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bhtooefr
> Sam
11/25/2016 at 16:26 |
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I think it was a combination of factors, really.
Her being a terrible candidate, her being a continuation of policies that weren’t working for the middle class (even under Obama, the economic recovery was only for the top) and people wanting change, her having tons of legit scandals, the timing of Comey’s release, and then, yes, fake news was a factor I’d say.
Of course, the mainstream media had their share of fake news against Sanders supporters - see the whole Nevada chair throwing incident, in which no chairs were actually thrown.
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Sam
> bhtooefr
11/25/2016 at 16:43 |
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I still think Bernie would have lost, but he was leaps and bounds better than Clinton (at least we assume, who knows what they might have dug up while he was campaigning). And it’s not like a single President is going to convert America from capitalism to socialism anyways, so that wouldn’t even be an issue.
Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/25/2016 at 17:49 |
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Sweet house, though
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> jkm7680
11/25/2016 at 18:01 |
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Maybe they’re just lazy. That would be my hypothesis.
fintail
> Sam
11/25/2016 at 18:09 |
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Socialism is alive already, just in reverse - the many funding the good of a few.
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fintail
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/25/2016 at 18:11 |
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Nice PNW style brick tudor, probably bought in 1988 for 75K and now add a zero to it.
Hillary, well, we all made it through Shrub, right? The Simpsons predicted this, and also that a blonde woman would take over after, all is not lost. The swamp is being drained! Make Russia Great Again
Dusty Ventures
> jkm7680
11/25/2016 at 20:51 |
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Stickers I get, because they’re a pain. No excuse on signs though, just walk outside, grab them, and bring them in.
Then there’s the houses in my work area that didn’t put up any Trump signs until
after
the election
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jkm7680
> Dusty Ventures
11/25/2016 at 20:55 |
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Honestly, I’m fine with the Trump signs staying up. Well, because he won. Same deal with Obama signs when Obama won.
And yeah I’ve seen that a bit also, I’ve seen a few trucks with Trump flags in the bed doing victory laps haha.
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Dusty Ventures
> jkm7680
11/25/2016 at 20:58 |
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Staying up is one thing, putting them up after is another. It’s like those people that don’t say anything about their local sports team until after they win the championship, then suddenly they’re head to toe in team gear
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Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
> Dusty Ventures
11/25/2016 at 21:41 |
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How brave to have an opinion after the fact.
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jkm7680
> Dusty Ventures
11/25/2016 at 21:56 |
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Yup, like the people who suddenly became Cubs fans as soon as they won.
RallyWrench
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/26/2016 at 00:00 |
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I find it amusing that the arrow is red, and pointing right.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> RallyWrench
11/26/2016 at 00:26 |
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In preparation for the time when we would be viewing it in out rear view mirror.
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RallyWrench
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/26/2016 at 01:24 |
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Sooner than later, I hope. And with different names on the sign.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> RallyWrench
11/26/2016 at 18:49 |
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Time for Liberals and the merely liberal to rethink.
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RallyWrench
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/26/2016 at 22:36 |
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Indeed, and for the DNC in particular to have a serious rebuild.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> RallyWrench
11/26/2016 at 22:49 |
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Something I’m watching closely. That and, since I’m an educator, the new education secretary. Teacher unions are the Republican Guard of the status quo and a big part of what’s wrong with public education in the US.
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RallyWrench
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/27/2016 at 00:18 |
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DeVos is troublesome. Self-righteous billionaires (is there any other kind?) certainly have no place directing education policy, of all things. With the oldest of my kids entering public school starting next year, the things and way they’re taught concerns me greatly. Given what I now know about the shortcomings of our textbooks, and the people who have influence on them, I’m not optimistic that things will improve soon.
I’m sure teacher’s unions could stand to trim fat and modernize, like many others. Unions, like the companies they fight, can grow too self-absorbed to be conscientiously managed. They need to exist though, because historically disorganized labor hasn’t fared very well against money and power. That said, I’ve got a lot of teachers in the family and in my circle of friends, and not one has ever spoken favorably to me about their district or its representation. The thing is, I think, that the good teachers don’t want to run the show, they want to teach, because that makes the most difference. So the bad ones who nonetheless know what’s needed to meet the status quo and thus climb ranks end up running things for the wrong reasons. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s my impression.
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> RallyWrench
11/27/2016 at 01:55 |
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As a union employee, there are no ranks to climb. The only career path for a teacher is out of the classroom. The art teacher whose students receive no standardized testing in that subject is paid the same as the math teacher or the science or English teacher. I don’t advocate getting rid of the Union, but the Union can’t keep letting it’s people be unaccountable. Guard the status quo, foment mediocrity. That’s what unions do for education.
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RallyWrench
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
11/28/2016 at 01:52 |
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Perhaps “ranks” was not a good choice of wording on my part. The income equality (discrepancy?) I knew about, but someone(s) has to organize the union, direct its agenda and curry favor, be the mouthpiece. Seems the wrong people end up in that position because they’ve kissed the right asses, at least from what I’ve heard.
Tazio, Count Fouroff
> Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
12/09/2016 at 12:38 |
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re popular vote vs Electoral College (pirated from Twitter, where else)
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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
> Tazio, Count Fouroff
12/09/2016 at 13:18 |
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We have four years to kick back and discover how large the bubble actually is, and whether or how it gets popped.
There is zero doubt in my mind that the liberal political leadership was, and still is, in a bubble, as evidenced when they pushed Bernie out of the race. Bernie was a good company man about it, but he’d have stood a better chance of beeting Trump and would have been unfazed by the age-discriminatory rhetoric that Trump would surely have heaped upon him.